
I have Cancer, prostate cancer; I have known about it for several years and have been awaiting the day that some definite treatment is required. That day came. Below is a composite of emails and writing I made on the treatment as it occurred. I went through 35 treatments, endured the most intolerable pain one can imagine, could not work outside the house for two tears, fell into depression, and now live with the possibility that the resulting damage by radiation may kill me. Below is my story for you to make your own judgement. Again, I am NOT a medical professional, I am a patient.
In December 2022, I started a radiation program to kill off prostate cancer. Up until that time, the only symptom I had was the occasional up-at-night trip to the bathroom. In January 2023, the treatments started four weeks into a seven-week program. It went all wrong; I was getting a lot of pain, and the doctor prescribed medication to help empty the bladder. Unknown to all, the bladder was blocked. The medicine made the pain worse. By week five, I was “on the edge.” The pain was too much to bear, so I seriously considered an alternate ending. I confronted Doctor Cancer, insisting he get another doctor from the hospital to assist. While waiting, we started with treatment. Doctor Cancer was with the technicians for the first time in five weeks. They did the pre-check to ensure the correct positioning. It was during this test they told me they could not do the treatment because my bladder was too full. I question them by asking, How could that be? You have been treating me with drugs to force my bladder to empty. It was a complete blockage. They put in a catheter, and I dumped 1200cc immediately. They also changed the medication (the nurse checked the chart for the meds and said, "No, no. This is not right. You got the wrong meds." After that, they changed it to a walking catheter, and I left. On the way to my RV, where I was staying, I dropped another 600cc. I spent the next ten days with the catheter and doing treatments. The treatments ended in February 2023, and I was in intense pain for six months. After realizing the choices of food and drink caused additional pain, I eliminated them, and the pain was reduced. The pain is still here 15 months later. I am awakened during the night between 3 and 4 times every night, and I am never able to sleep through the night and get fully rested. Pre-treatment, I would rate my quality of life as 8 out of 10, now it is lucky to be a four.
December 2022
I first went to Dr. Urologist for kidney stones in 2016. After surgery, it was discovered my PSA numbers were high. I stayed with him for years, monitoring the PSA numbers.
After several years of seeing Dr. Urologist for post-kidney stones, he stated it was time to address the Prostrate. At Dr. Urologist’s recommendation, I met with Dr Cancer at Northside Hospital. We discussed the options of radiation versus removal. Cancer made it sound like removal had many more possible negative outcomes. One of which is becoming impotent. We discussed the radiation, and he told me there would be 35 sessions. I asked how he would know if it was working or if, along the way, I was done. He replied. "It's a receipt, like baking a cake. Cook it for a certain time, and you are done." I remarked. "Well, even when baking a cake, you stick a toothpick into it to check." He responded, "Do you want me to stick a toothpick in you." I was not overly impressed with this, but I have no real knowledge of the choices and selected the recommended radiation solution.
I have Cancer, prostate cancer; I have known about it for several years and have been awaiting the day that some definite treatment is required. That day came. Below is a composite of emails and writing I made on the treatment as it occurred. I went through 35 treatments, endured the most intolerable pain one can imagine, could not work outside the house for two tears, fell into depression, and now live with the possibility that the resulting damage by radiation may kill me. Below is my story for you to make your own judgement. Again, I am NOT a medical professional, I am a patient.
On Thursday, January 26, 2023, at 10:01:50 PM EST, <email> wrote:
I promised to keep you informed of my progress, so here is an update. I blind-copied everyone so you would not have to get caught up in one of those reply-all things.
Anyway, here it is.
In 2022, roughly 1.9 million people will be diagnosed with cancer in the United States. This is not an uncommon situation. People are treated with drugs, chemotherapy, and radiation every day. Great strides have been made in treating the disease, and now, after years of research and refining treatments, the survival rate, even the total cure rate, is remarkable. People now understand the disease, the process of diagnosing it, treating it, and its psychological effects. Knowing all of this, there is a new confidence that the cancer will be beaten. At times, there seems to be an almost cavalier attitude concerning it, "My brother (uncle, friend, neighbor) had that, and he's fine now." I can't tell you how many times I've heard that.
In 2022, 268,490 men were diagnosed with Prostate cancer, and 34,500 men died from it. That's just a twelve percent fatality rate. Just? It's just if you are one of the eighty-eight percent, and 'Are you kidding me just twelve?' if you are not. The odds are better with early detection and treatment. But none of it matters when it is you who has it; you wonder, 'Am I going to be one of the twelve percent?'
I have Prostate cancer. I have known it for six years and have been treated by my Urologist all this time. Blood tests, medication, and keeping a watchful eye on it have been my doctor's plan. Knowing that eventually, some form of radical treatment would be necessary, his thought was always to wait as long as we can as significant strides continue to be made in the treatment of the disease. When I was first diagnosed, it was cut open and yanked. I was definitely opposed to that. Now, significant strides have been made since then, low-dose radiation for one. But I still can't help but wonder about the twelve percent.
There are many stages of Prostate cancer, all of which fall under the heading of 'Treating Prostate Cancer' but are very different in severity and treatments. If I hear another, "Oh, it was nothing. I went away for four days / eight days, had this new laser/procedure/green light/medicine, and now I'm fine.' I'm going to punch someone's lights out.
I have started treatments, but I had no real idea what to expect.
December 2022: The first procedure, after the MRIs, biopsies, and PET scans, was this lovely insertion of 125 metal pellets into my body. These little guys are placed by the cancer cells and get the task of absorbing the radiation from the treatments and then giving it back to the cancer cells. (Don't ask how they insert them). The hope is that their proximately kills the cancer cells, not the good ones. That is the hope. Low-dosage radiation treatments, five days a week for seven weeks, don't sound so bad.
Before each treatment, you drink twenty-four ounces of water to fill your bladder. Now it is okay if you are at a bar and drinking beer watching a football game, but it sucks if you are sitting in a waiting room, ready to explode. At this point, you are wishing for two things: One, you don’t wet your pants, and two, they don’t get backed up, and you are waiting even longer.
The radiation portion of the treatment is a no-brainer. Lay on the table, pull your pants down, a machine whirls around you, and twenty minutes later, you’re on your way. And ‘On your way’ is always to the bathroom.
If all goes well, you drop your load, go home, and repeat the next day. However, your body can get pissed off when radiation attacks it. In my case, it smacked me good and hard. You take things for granted, especially how your body works. In the past, when I had to go, I went. I just knew I had to go, and two or three times a day, I just knew, no big deal. Enter radiation, and the bladder gets very angry. I have since learned, in some detail, how the bladder works, but in the interest of time, let me just say that when it is working well and full, the bladder sends a message, 'I'm full,' and tries to expel the urine. Unfortunately, in some cases, mine, for instance, the bladder is irritated or damaged by the radiation, and no matter how much is in the bladder, the message is sent to empty. Again, unfortunately, the bladder is a beast, and it's pushing hard, and the pressure, well, in a word, is a bitch. If you are one of the unfortunates, you have to go every fifteen minutes; if you wait, the discomfort becomes a pain, and then the pain becomes intense. Like I said, it's a bitch
Well, there was a company that used to say, Better Living Through Chemistry, and I am a believer. Some company made a pill that tells the bladder it's empty, so cool it, and yesterday, for the first time in three weeks of ‘interesting days and nights, ' I am without significant pain. Yeah, drugs.
So, where am I? As of today, thirteen treatments are done, with twenty-two to go. Up in the AM, drink the prep at 840 AM, hold it for forty-five minutes, do twenty in the machine, spend an hour afterward emptying the bladder, then go to the gym for an hour to build up stamina to counter the effects of the radiation, then a protein lunch, then return to the room, or my case the RV. It's now 2:30 or 3 p.m., and I am done for the day, for the most part.
Fatigue is the only side effect now. Some days, it's nothing; today was a good day.
What's next? I don't know for sure; they say the fatigue gets worse. But I am committed to the gym, walking, and kicking fatigue's ass. And I thank the lord for Colleen, my daughters, and the strength they give me.
More to follow.
Can you believe it, COVID! In the middle of all this, I get COVID again. No worries, I had before, and it was no issue, and I suspect it will not be one now. If I had not been told I had been exposed, I would not know I had it. All that being said, I am being carefully watched by my daughters, who will ensure I stay healthy enough to be treated for my other illness. I am blessed.
As for treatments, eighteen down and 17 to go, I am on the downward slope, the light at the proverbial tunnel, as they say. Each morning, I sat in the waiting room with the next two men in the queue. We chat a bit, and it's nice to know that misery loves company. Mike is very old, 75, and the age of my other companion in crime is unknown. The second guy is Vietnamese, and I converse with him via my Apple language translator. So, you can imagine it is a limited conversation. Today was a good and bad day. Mike was not there, he completed his last treatment yesterday, which is good. My Vietnamese friend was gone as well. I first thought he had died; he was very feeble and in bad shape. However, my nurse told me he had finished his treatments as well. They are both done and gone - damn them. ; )
· In week four, the pain becomes intense.
· In week five, pain becomes severe, like "passing a stone" each time, 20 times a day, up every 60-90 minutes at night.
· On 13 February, the pain was beyond severe at the treatment center. Nurses reacted. The doctor was not present.
· It is 14 February at the treatment center, and I told the doctor about the pain. He suggested I go to my Urologist for a urine test. I refuse. Demand attention. I also demand to continue with the day's treatment The doctor is in the tech room for the first time. Techs do a test, then come out and say they cannot do the treatment because my bladder is too full. I am given a catheter, drop 1200 cc. Then, the nurse replaced the big bag with a walking bag, 600cc more, before returning to the RV.
· Feb 14 catheter in place.
First of all, the COVID-19 thing in my last update (below) turned out to be a false positive, so that was good. Unfortunately, that ended the good news.
In my previous message, I wrote that the new meds were working; however, that proved to be a “false positive” as well. Over the next week, things went south, and trips to the bathroom became more frequent. On Monday the 13th, after radiation, I went to my Urologist, whose PA did a scan and reported my bladder was empty. I am told there is a condition that makes it think it is full when it is empty, so as soon as something goes in there, it attempts to push it all out and causes frequency and pain. That made sense to me at the time—new medicine. However, sleep became limited to 60 to 90 minutes at a time, as it was repeatedly off to the bathroom.
Over the week, the visits were more frequent, and the pain started increasing to the point that it was like pushing a kidney stone every time. By Friday the 13th, I was insane with pain; trying to urinate was like peeing glass (I have never really peed glass, but I do think it would be quite painful). By the weekend, I was just about out of my mind; I had not slept, and making four trips to the head every 20 minutes, each with its own accompaniment of pain, was the rule. On Sunday night, the pain was so intense, and I had no sleep for days. I went to my treatment on Monday, during which I had to use the head, which was directly behind the nurses' station. It was really bad. I came out and went to the nurse and said I was really in pain and needed to see the doctor. Her response was, "Yes, indeed. We all heard." Well. I got the message out. My Oncologist was not present, but they insisted this new over-the-counter pill would take away the pain, and I could see the doctor in the morning. They were wrong. Monday night was as bad as it gets; intense is hardly the word for it. I said words I had forgotten I knew. I had no sleep at all that night. The pain was such that I considered going to the Emergency Room but thought going there at 2 a.m. would be an exercise in futility as they would have no knowledge of my condition and treatment. I foresaw sitting in waiting rooms for hours, wanting to die, as the real possibility. I considered just taking all the pills and ending the pain—it was that bad.
Today, Tuesday the 14th, I went to the Oncologist with “guns blazing” with a mindset of convincing them of the need for immediate treatment. I think they got the message when my Oncologist said, you need to go to your Urologist. As my Urologist was 40 minutes away, through traffic, and I knew all he could do there was do a urine test, then say, come back in the morning for results, I informed him, "I'm staying right here until I get treatment. He can come here, or you can get someone else from the hospital, but it’s happening here.” -- Go Me!
To make a long story longer, (I don't know why people say, "To make a long story short, I…" by continuing; they are just making it longer.). So, to make a long story short. I had to get my radiation treatment while he was considering his options, and I guess he heard my cacophony of sounds during the four loud, painful visits to the bathroom in the 10 minutes before the treatment, so he decided to do some checking first.
Again, making the story “shorter.” So, we go to the scan, and it runs, and tech says, “Your bladder is completely full; we can't do the treatment. You need to let some out." Again, more loud bathroom visits and we finally proceeded with the radiation. Afterward, I met with the Oncologist and remarked to him that I did not understand how the bladder could be so full. The Urologist says it is empty, and I am taking medicine to push the little amount in there out. Now we get to the truth. I presume someone read the scan incorrectly. The bladder was actually full, not empty, and the medicine he prescribed was turning the bladder into a firehose and eventually caused a blockage, which caused the pressure, which caused the pain, which prevented the flow, which caused the pain, which……get my drift.
So, the solution is a catheter. Ouch. Release the beast of the backup and let the urethra heal because it has been beaten to hell. I never thought getting a catheter would be something I wanted. Insert and release 1200 ml or 2.7 pounds. Then repeat, 1200 ml more or 5.4 pounds immediately released. Can you spell relief? E M P T Y
Will see what happens in five days. As of today, thirty treatments are down, and five to go.
· 14-24 Catheter in place.
· 24 Feb last treatment
Signed ME
Post-report note: Before every radiation treatment, the staff did a test image to ensure the radiation was pointed at the right place; the doctor was never there doing the checking. On Tuesday, after my explosion, when I demanded to continue with the schedule so as not to waste one single day of this treatment, the doctor was in the control room watching the results of the pre-scan. Afterward, the tech came out and said they could not do the treatment because the bladder was completely full. The question is, as the bladder was full like that for two weeks, why did no one see this condition? And also, what were the effects of doing the treatment for the last two weeks with the bladder full? Is this the cause of the pain now?
The pain had been constant. Every time I have to pee, it is like pushing a kidney stone. During the day, I get pressure and have to run to the bathroom. It is so damn intense sometimes. I am not sleeping through the night and am up three to four times to pee.
They put me on a new drug, Myrbetriq, and I got three weeks' supply from the doctor. I was getting low and reached out the Express Scripts to check on the shipment. They reported that they had called the doctor's office to get pre-approval, but the doctor's office never responded. I had to call at least six times over the course of three weeks to finally get someone to reach back out to Express Scripts and approve the medication. I went for two weeks with no medication. The relief I had gotten previously from using the new meds stopped, and the pain was intense.
I have tried several times to reach out to my doctor, but he is never available; I got angry on the phone with scheduling and finally got a call from the PA. The Zoom failed, and he was an hour late, but I did get to speak to speak to him. He doubled by dosage of the new drug. He scheduled a CT scan.
April 11, 2023
Appointment: Dr. Cancer. "It will take two weeks after the last treatment for the radiation to peak and two to four to six months before it goes to half-life."
[SPECIAL NOTE: The above is the only I saw Dr Cancer after the procedure and to this day.
April 11, 2023
Appointment with Dr. Urologist, He tells me the problems I am having are strictly from the radiation. It will be from six months to a year before I am completely healed, and the new medicine is stopping the bladder from sending false messages.
Report from CT Scan Doctor
August 3, 4:38 p.m.
“Dr. Urologist and I have reviewed CT results. There is no evidence of any stones or obstruction and no suspicious masses.
- Given your persistent symptoms refractory to medications, with negative urine cultures and CT, Dr. Urologist would recommend you get set up for cystoscopy in the clinic - to check for any scar tissue, strictures, persistent inflammation, etc. Unfortunately, common for men to get radiation-related urethritis or cystitis (inflammation and irritation of the urethra and bladder/perineal area) with radiation tx (including seeds).
- Other potential tx to see if we can get you some relief: PO Valium; rectal suppositories with Baclofen/Diazepam; muscle relaxers (Skelaxin)to see if they can help with pelvic floor tension; sometimes Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy is needed.”
Sept 11, 2023
Cystoscopy procedure with Dr. Urologist, his comment was "huge, ugly, terrible, very bad prostate. The radiation caused it to swell even more. Damaged nerve endings from the prostate. Solution: core out the middle of the prostate.” Diagnosis: Radiation Proctitis.” They administered some Topical Anesthetic, but it did not work. It was the worst pain I had ever felt in my life. I had been taking verbal notes on my phone before the procedure and left it on. The audio is awful to hear.
[NOTE: The sound of the procedure is available. I was using my phone to dictate work notes prior to the procedure. I ended a note and thought I had turned off the dictation, but in fact had just started another one. The attached sound file is unedited. The first 6 minutes and 30 seconds is dead air, again not knowing it was one. Pain starts then.]
Accidental recording of the Cystoscopy. The original is 13 minutes and 27 seconds. The edited part was the waiting for the procedure to begin.
September 19
Scheduled for Aquablation on November 2.
November 2-3
I had the procedure at Northside Hospital on November 3. I meet with Dr. Urologist in prep. He told me after the procedure to stop two of the meds. I don’t remember anything after the anesthesiologist said hello—expected. Afterward, I was in recovery, groggy, sore, and again hooked up to a catheter. It is now Saturday morning, November 4. The nurse tells me that this hospital section closes down on the weekend if there are no patients. Dr. K is not coming to check on me for post-op, but another doctor will be checking. Later, the nurse said that the doctor couldn't come and that I just had to keep taking all my meds. He tells the nurse that if she feels I am good, I can leave. I took my sore body, complete with a catheter, and drove the 120 miles home.
November 6
I called Dr. Urologist’s office and explained that the nurse let me go, the other doctor did not show up, and he told me to keep taking all my meds—not what Dr. Urologist. said to do.
November 9
I called twice more, and today, I got a reply from someone at the office that Dr Urologist said to keep taking the meds. I am confused.
November-December
The pain has not gone away. Nighttime is a time of interrupted sleep. I am up 2,3,4 times a night—pain when urinating continues.
It is risky to be away from a toilet for too long. The urge to go comes on quickly; if I can't get to a toilet, I leak. If I work outside at the house, and it comes on, I have to go in a cup I keep in my workshop or pee in the bushes.
I was Christmas shopping at the mall, and my car was far away. I walked to the car in the pouring rain, and the pain came, and I tried to run to the car. I didn't make it. I peed my pants—no soaked my pants. Fortunately, the pee-soaked me looked like I was just caught in a downpour, so when I went into Walmart to buy pants and underwear, I am sure they had no idea I peed myself. It was a humiliating experience.
December 18
I met with Dr New Urologist for a second opinion. I told Dr. New Urologist the entire story, and Dr. New Urologist decided to take me on as a patient. Dr. New Urologist told me to keep my next scheduled appointment with Dr. Urologist.
January 16
The best I could do was to get a 5-minute video session with Dr Urologist. He had no answers for the continued pain. He just said it could take months to a year to get healthy. Every time I talk to him, it is a new timeline. He does tell me that the radiation has caused the bladder pain. The pain continues. I can't have any caffeine, or the pain is intense. I have a list of acidic foods I cannot eat. I told him that after the Aquablation, I got Peyronie's disease, and my family doctor said it happens from an injury. He quickly moved past that subject, saying, “That has nothing to do with the procedure.”
Life sucks right now. When this all started in 2022, I put my life on a scale of 8 out of 10, minus one for aging and one for occasionally getting up once at night. Now, I am at 4. The pain is less than 2023, but it has been 15 months, and the pain continues; I don't sleep, I cannot be away from the toilet too long, and I forget about sex with a bent penis and fighting depression.
July 2024.
I switched to a different doctor, who is very good. I got new meds, and as of July 22, 2024, most of the pain is gone. Most nights, I sleep through the night. This is a huge step forward. I am rested in the morning, and I know that my emotional condition has significantly improved. I am not depressed all the time, which is a good thing. I look forward to the new day.
I just took another blood test for PSA numbers, and I am awaiting the result. Whether it is up or down, it is not the final word on the subject. I do another in three months, then six months, and then I will know if the cancer is back.
August 2024-December 2-24
The pain comes and goes; getting up at night is one or two times. The pressure to go is sporadic, but when it comes, I must seek a bathroom or leak. With a condition of frequent “emergency pees,” how can I get a job outside of the house?
UPDATE:
On December 11, 2024, I had an episode of Diverticulosis. During the treatment, a CT scan was performed. Besides the Diverticulosis, they found stones in my bladder, kidney, and appendix.
On December 16, 2024, I had a procedure to remove the stones. Dr New Urologist could NOT get all the stones out. Some stones are attached to the bladder wall and are too dangerous to remove due to the thin bladder wall and position with the Prostate. Referred to Radiological Oncology at Emory Hospital.
On 20 June 2024 sent a letter to Patient Relations of Northside Hospital requesting the Hospital review my case, as I was concerned that the level of care in the department, at least in my case, was substandard, and I had suffered from said treatment. Received no response.
On 27 June 2024, I sent a registered letter to Patient Relations of Northside Hospital – Returned, undelivered.
On 8 July 2024, called Patient Relations of Northside Hospital requesting status, left a message.
On 8 July 2024, I received a call from Patient Relations of Northside Hospital. Their message was that they would forward my letter to the Review Board, discuss it, and “see it the doctors need coaching.” Also, I would not be privileged to the results of that discussion.
On 1 February 2025, I sent a letter to the Vice President, Clinical Operations at Northside Hospital, reporting my case and the lack of any response from the hospital. I have received no response.
I am not sure if I will ever be completely healed. Two years and the pain is still there. Now, there is the threat of bladder failure or, possibly bladder stones forever and a weak bladder wall that will prevent repair.
If I could do it over again – I won’t.
If you have it, best wishes.
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